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queenschic
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Its a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE tragedy, but i dont think it was intentional. I dont see how i could go on after something like this.
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Songstress
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by EmberLynn
It happens. Its sad but true. Its very very hard for the whole family. My heart goes out to anyone who anciently too part in their child's death. Trust me, they beat themselves up more than anyone else could. Its easy to say "yeah that'll never happen to me." But then their comes the day when you and your DH have a major fight, or issues at work or with other member of the family. Your schedule changes, your not thinking clearly and human error takes its part. The best thing you can do is hope you are never in that such a state with your child, or that you can get a hold of yourself before your child gets hurt.
I think I would just want to die if this ever happened to me. I dont think I could live my life. This woman looks BROKEN.
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Posted 10/2/08 2:28 PM
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Espo22
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
i guess i would have to see the whole show to see her whole side to the story. Also the trunk thing didnt help me, if you are going into your trunk with a minivan or SUV then you are looking towards the back seat, infact with an SUV the back of the trunk is the back seat. But i guess she was in a hurry and didnt pay attention.
Did they ask on the show why the babysitter didn't call?
Its a horrible thing that happened.
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Posted 10/2/08 2:43 PM
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Tuosto
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Oh wow, this is terrible. I will not even leave my dog in the car let alone a baby. This is so sad and I just can't even relate or fathom this. Although, she must be so miserable that I do feel sorry for her
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Posted 10/2/08 5:27 PM
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sophisticat13
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Wow how awful...I would want to kill myself if I was that mother. But at he same time, I'm sorry but...hard as I'm trying...I can't help but think that there is just something wrong with this picture????
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Posted 10/2/08 7:04 PM
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Aug07OFCbride
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
what a tragedy  . i watched most of the show. not to say i havent thought gosh, how could that happen!? but its definitely very easy for all us us to criticize and say all sort of things being on this side of it and thinking we could never make such a horrible mistake, kwim? and i hope none of us ever do!!!! that being said, it seems that the show wasnt to reopen an attack on this woman, but about understanding how many women get in this mode of "go, go, go", taking on too much, being overworked and distracted, not taking care of themselves (sleep deprived, etc) and using her story to build awareness to prevent things like this from happening in the future....much more productive and hopefully it will really wake some ppl up and change this mode so many get into.
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Posted 10/2/08 9:51 PM
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DiamondPipa
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by ant n tilde
Here is the thing. I dont understand it either BUT oprah said this show was for every woman who has missed teh exit they take EVERY SINGLE DAY or every woman that pulls up to their house and cant remember how they got there
It really affected me. . . I am on autopilot to and from work. . . I would love to say I could never forget my kid but who really know? I bet she thought that too.
I wish I could say I am a better person and I have sympathy for her but I can't physically feel that way. . .but I try not to judge.
MANY times I am supposed to go somewhere after work like the supermarket and all of a sudden I am IN MY HOUSE before realizing it!
Or one day, I literally forgot to turn down my block and didnt realize it until about 5 blocks later. . .
i do the sameee exact things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! eta: ...and that is why i cannot judge!!!
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Posted 10/2/08 11:42 PM
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Luvbsb4eva
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
I can't even believe that she said she talked about her children while she was in school that day... and it didn't even hit her then... wow, I couldn't believe that story... I was in shock after watching that!
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Posted 10/2/08 11:44 PM
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TM2008
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
i just read this on Oprah's website... thougt i would pass it along b/c it was interesting....
linkkk
if you scroll down to momof1boy's posts - she talks about living in the same community as her & knowing other info about her...
not saying its true - but if it is.... oyy veyy!
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Posted 10/3/08 9:51 AM
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SB7308
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by TM2008
i just read this on Oprah's website... thougt i would pass it along b/c it was interesting....
linkkk
if you scroll down to momof1boy's posts - she talks about living in the same community as her & knowing other info about her...
not saying its true - but if it is.... oyy veyy!
OMG!! Wow if this is true. This is what the woman wrote
HOW DECEITFUL THIS WOMAN IS!!!! I live in the same community as this lady and I watched in horror last year as this woman portrayed herself as a poor overworked, overscheduled woman that just accidentally "forgot" her child in the car. I wish to inform all of you that this woman left her child in the car to go to Busken's Bakery to purchase 8 dozen doughnuts before she got to school in which she BACKED HER SUV up to the school and made 6 trips back and forth from her car to the school. All this time her 2 year old daughter is in the car seat. For the rest of the day (approximately 8 hours), she never once thinks about her daughter!!!!!!! FYI(This is all in the police report): This was not the FIRST TIME this lady left this child alone in the car!!!!!!!!!!!!! During that same week that Cecilia died, she left Cecilia in the car alone for 10 to 15 minutes while she took her 5 year old into preschool and watched a play. Also, in 2007, she left Cecilia in the car so much, that Brenda and her husband were warned by the preschool's director that that kind of behavior was unacceptable! SO YOU SEE, BRENDA SET UP A PATTERN OF LEAVING HER 2 YEAR OLD IN THE CAR SO MUCH that on that fatal day, poor helpless Cecilia died a horrific death! What's more, can you believe "the most hated mom in America" did not even change her daughter's diaper in the morning before she put her in the carseat for the morning???
THIS LADY ALSO CALLED HER SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY AND WANTED TO KNOW WHEN SHE COULD RETURN TO WORK!!!!! HOW DISGUSTING!!
So you see, this was not an isolated event in which she left her child in the car!!! I feel no sympathy for this lady! She is only using her poor daughter's death to get noteriety when she in actuality was her child's killer!!! Check out all the facts, Oprah, before you put a child killer on your show!! YOU PUT THIS LADY ON YOUR SHOW AND YOU WON'T PUT SARA PALIN ON- the world is in worse shape than I realized!
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Posted 10/3/08 9:56 AM
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TM2008
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
I KNOW!!!
someone else posted something about how they knew the family & her older son (5 yrs old) was asked to draw a picture of the family & didnt include the little girl who died (his sister) & the teacher asked him where his sister was & he responded "in the car sleeping" 
again - not saying this is 100% factual - just passing along the info
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Posted 10/3/08 10:01 AM
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milana
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
OMGGGGG
If this story is true i lost every bit of sympathy i had for this woman! Why would people make up such horrid stories about her?! Nothing is ever as black and white as we think....if what was written above turns out to be true Oprah is going to feel like a real fool as she should!
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Posted 10/3/08 10:14 AM
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Espo22
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by TM2008
i just read this on Oprah's website... thougt i would pass it along b/c it was interesting....
linkkk
if you scroll down to momof1boy's posts - she talks about living in the same community as her & knowing other info about her...
not saying its true - but if it is.... oyy veyy!
they say it was in the police reports and it was reported in the media when this happened
wow at first i thought maybe i was being too judgemental but after reading that, I am even more upset. She had a habit of doing this, she would leave her kid in the car, not bc she forgot but knowingly did so. They talked about her going into meetings and seeing her other daughters plays and leaving her baby in the car. They talked about one time she was in a meeting and mentioned her daughter was in the car sleeping.
So i am sorry but now i think she knew her daughter was in the car and left her in there the way she always did in the past. In the past though nothing happened so she had no problem admitting it. When she did die this is when she cries that she didnt know she was in the backseat, i think that is BS then. She was even told in the past by the day care director i think it was to STOP leaving her kid in the backseat and had to explain why you cant do that.
I know everybodies hearts just break hearing this and they dont want to be judgemental so i understand how ppl feel for her. But i blame her sorry and now i do even more. I think as women we all go through everyting in our heads over and over and over. Once i leave the house thats when i think of everything, did i forget anything, did i leave anything on.
Plus the police report says that she went back to her car SEVERAL TIMES to get stuff. How does she remember donuts, lesson plans in the trunk but forgot her kid. WHen you walk to your trunk you can see into the backseat, how do you not see the kid. How do you remember everything else but your kid. Also with the simple fact that she has done this many times on purpose, i doubt this was the one time she forgot the kid was there. Of course she wasnt going to say she knew
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Posted 10/3/08 12:36 PM
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Songstress
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
WOW! I wonder if its true! If it is then I dont know whats wrong with this woman. Im sure Oprah wont be following up on that.
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Posted 10/3/08 4:21 PM
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sophisticat13
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by Songstress
WOW! I wonder if its true! If it is then I dont know whats wrong with this woman. Im sure Oprah wont be following up on that.
Haha if only she did...she won't because it will make her look bad though!! Love Oprah but she definitely makes mistakes sometimes
As far as not feeling sorry for her I agree with Denise above...I don't either...too many times she left her kid in the car and now it's too late...sorry but I call that gross neglect  !!!
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Posted 10/4/08 1:23 PM
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Espo22
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by sophisticat13
Posted by Songstress
WOW! I wonder if its true! If it is then I dont know whats wrong with this woman. Im sure Oprah wont be following up on that.
Haha if only she did...she won't because it will make her look bad though!! Love Oprah but she definitely makes mistakes sometimes
As far as not feeling sorry for her I agree with Denise above...I don't either...too many times she left her kid in the car and now it's too late...sorry but I call that gross neglect !!!
People also dont realize how dangerous this is for other reasons too, kids do get kidnapped so i would be so afraid of this. When i was about 4-5 years old. My parents had to go in somewhere but didnt want to leave me inside the car alone so a friend said they will stay with me. I was in the back seating playing and the friend was in the front seat but was laying down bc it was a road trip and we had driven a long time so took the time to just stretch their legs and stuff. It was in a huge parking lot and it was late at night. I remember it so clearly and it was so scary. Someone walking by only saw me in the backseat so thought i was alone, i was an idiot kid who kept playing with the locks, guess i thought it was fun to lock and unlock the door. I saw this man come over to the car and tried opening the door, luckily i was playing with the locks so i was able to lock it RIGHT AWAY since my hand was right on it. Once i locked it he tried to break in but i screamed and my parents friend in the front seat jumped up and reacted quickly, luckily the guy got scared and ran off when he saw someone else was in the car. Its weird but i always think about that, i think what if my parents did leave me in the car for a few mins alone like many parents do. They think "oh we're just running in quickly and will be back out in a few mins so the kid will be fine alone for a few mins" if they would've thought like that too then i would've been a kidnapped kid which is so crazy to think how close i came to that, or who knows if i'd even be alive. WHat i do remember is that my mom said she wouldn't go in bc she refused to leave me alone, but my dad needed her to so once the friend volunteered she said ok that would be fine then.
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Posted 10/4/08 2:40 PM
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carolinebr
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Ok, I hate to pull the "mom" card but I have to say this:
For the first year of my daughter's life, we were SO overtired from not sleeping that we did the dumbest things. I drove away with coffee on the roof (more than once) , I burnt dinner several times, I walked into walls, I put ketchip in my coffee (instead of milk). I once fell asleep at a red light. While driving to work. It's THAT bad.
You have never felt exhaustion like you feel after a baby. After months of not sleeping, you become dumb. Especially if she was a working mom. I don't think it's fair to say she is a "bad" mother, as the woman on the Oprah site did. She didn't murder her child. She made an awful, horrible mistake.
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Posted 10/4/08 2:56 PM
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Espo22
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by carolinebr
Ok, I hate to pull the "mom" card but I have to say this:
For the first year of my daughter's life, we were SO overtired from not sleeping that we did the dumbest things. I drove away with coffee on the roof (more than once) , I burnt dinner several times, I walked into walls, I put ketchip in my coffee (instead of milk). I once fell asleep at a red light. While driving to work. It's THAT bad.
You have never felt exhaustion like you feel after a baby. After months of not sleeping, you become dumb. Especially if she was a working mom. I don't think it's fair to say she is a "bad" mother, as the woman on the Oprah site did. She didn't murder her child. She made an awful, horrible mistake.
read the other posts, they say that in the police reports and reported on the news in the hometown that she knowingly did this many times. She would go to meetings and leave the kid in the car and when ppl asked about the baby she would say it was in the car sleeping, she even had a day care director come to her to tell her she needs to stop doing this bc of how many times others have seen her doing this. Even spoke about her going to her older daughters play and left the kid in the car.
I understand as a mother there is exhaustion and cant even imagine what its like, but she has done this many times on purpose. ALl the other times she admitted she left her kid in the car, but the one time when this happened she claims she forgot, so i really doubt thats the case. I completely understand what youre saying and i think those that saw her on oprah felt for her especially mothers who know what its like. But they also didnt show what it said on the police reports that this was a habit she did all the time
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Posted 10/4/08 3:50 PM
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stephanief
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by Espo22
Posted by carolinebr
Ok, I hate to pull the "mom" card but I have to say this:
For the first year of my daughter's life, we were SO overtired from not sleeping that we did the dumbest things. I drove away with coffee on the roof (more than once) , I burnt dinner several times, I walked into walls, I put ketchip in my coffee (instead of milk). I once fell asleep at a red light. While driving to work. It's THAT bad.
You have never felt exhaustion like you feel after a baby. After months of not sleeping, you become dumb. Especially if she was a working mom. I don't think it's fair to say she is a "bad" mother, as the woman on the Oprah site did. She didn't murder her child. She made an awful, horrible mistake.
read the other posts, they say that in the police reports and reported on the news in the hometown that she knowingly did this many times. She would go to meetings and leave the kid in the car and when ppl asked about the baby she would say it was in the car sleeping, she even had a day care director come to her to tell her she needs to stop doing this bc of how many times others have seen her doing this. Even spoke about her going to her older daughters play and left the kid in the car.
I understand as a mother there is exhaustion and cant even imagine what its like, but she has done this many times on purpose. ALl the other times she admitted she left her kid in the car, but the one time when this happened she claims she forgot, so i really doubt thats the case. I completely understand what youre saying and i think those that saw her on oprah felt for her especially mothers who know what its like. But they also didnt show what it said on the police reports that this was a habit she did all the time
I agree with you completely...she did this MANY times and IMHO, she IS a bad, neglectful mom
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Posted 10/4/08 8:09 PM
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jenn122397
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
The whole point of the show was to show how women try to multi-task and there really is no such thing as multitasking because we put one thing on hold to try to do that second third or fourth thing "at the same time"
I did wonder too how can something like this happen (especially for such a long period of time) but the woman did seem to be telling the truth and i felt really bad for her.
I was talking to women that I work with and they said things like this happened when they were raising their kids (definitely not as severe) but it was a result of just simply being overwhelmed
I know about 3 -4 examples just from my neighbors of things happening like this, some ended tragically, with a baby being out of their sight for literally less than 5 minutes
We are all human and make mistakes and you can tell this woman genuinely hated herself for this mistake.
I'm not even a mom and I know I do things all the time - like driving towards my college instead of work (i graduated 4 years ago!) or leaving my house and thinking where the heck am i going
ETA: Just wanted to add that I totally disagree when people leave their kids in the car intentionally. I used to work at a bakery on a VERY busy street and people would double park and expect to cut line and be helped in less than 30 seconds "because my baby is in the car!" That is just totally selfishness
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Posted 10/5/08 1:05 PM
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LauraD419
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
How do you forget your kid? Maybe you lock your keys in the car or you forget your phone...but your KID??? Honestly.
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Posted 10/5/08 1:48 PM
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Aug07OFCbride
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by Espo22
Posted by carolinebr
Ok, I hate to pull the "mom" card but I have to say this:
For the first year of my daughter's life, we were SO overtired from not sleeping that we did the dumbest things. I drove away with coffee on the roof (more than once) , I burnt dinner several times, I walked into walls, I put ketchip in my coffee (instead of milk). I once fell asleep at a red light. While driving to work. It's THAT bad.
You have never felt exhaustion like you feel after a baby. After months of not sleeping, you become dumb. Especially if she was a working mom. I don't think it's fair to say she is a "bad" mother, as the woman on the Oprah site did. She didn't murder her child. She made an awful, horrible mistake.
read the other posts, they say that in the police reports and reported on the news in the hometown that she knowingly did this many times. She would go to meetings and leave the kid in the car and when ppl asked about the baby she would say it was in the car sleeping, she even had a day care director come to her to tell her she needs to stop doing this bc of how many times others have seen her doing this. Even spoke about her going to her older daughters play and left the kid in the car.
I understand as a mother there is exhaustion and cant even imagine what its like, but she has done this many times on purpose. ALl the other times she admitted she left her kid in the car, but the one time when this happened she claims she forgot, so i really doubt thats the case. I completely understand what youre saying and i think those that saw her on oprah felt for her especially mothers who know what its like. But they also didnt show what it said on the police reports that this was a habit she did all the time
i just wonder if all that stuff was directly from police reports... like were the police reports posted publicly, online or something and thats where ppl are getting this from? bc i think its impt to know where the info is coming from and whether its just heresay.
it just puzzles me how someone would think it wouldNT be deadly to leave a 2 yr old in the car for that long, ya know? like thats what makes me think this time WAS a mistake. calling her a murderer isn't fair IMO. she obviously was not charged with murder and there had to be a lengthy investigation. this woman is also clearly distraught. why would she just decide to intentionally leave her child in the car knowing that she'd most likely die!? it is NOT right to be making a habit of leaving children in the car if thats the true pattern she had but im just saying.
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