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Songstress
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Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
This woman was so overwhelmed, she forgot her daughter in the car for 8 hours in August. The baby died of heatstroke. I just have no words for this. The woman hates herself for it. She didnt normally bring her baby with her so she just FORGOT. My God, I do some stupid things when Im overwhelmed but I just dont think I could forget my baby in a car....
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Songstress
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
OMG Oprah just said 33 babies died this way this year...unbelievable
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Posted 10/2/08 1:30 PM
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Espo22
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
how do you forget your baby for 8 hours, thats a VERY long time. I would think most mothers would think "OMG where is my baby" i see mothers who freak out if their kid isnt in their sight for a few mins. That is just a bit much and can't even comprehend how that can happen.
Where was she? Where was the car parked for 8 hours?
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Posted 10/2/08 1:32 PM
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teenigrrl
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
how does someone forge their kid??? and for 8 hours??? what was she doing that she forgot all about her kid for so long?
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Posted 10/2/08 1:32 PM
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Songstress
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
She worked at a school. I missed that part really but she went to work!! And a teacher friends saw the baby in the car!
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Posted 10/2/08 1:33 PM
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Espo22
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by Songstress
She worked at a school. I missed that part really but she went to work!! And a teacher friends saw the baby in the car!
I understand being overwhelmed, but when she got out of the car didnt she see the baby was in the car i dont know its just weird to me, dont see how that happens. If i get out of the car and forget my phone i remember within a few mins and go back. You just know something is missing.
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Posted 10/2/08 1:36 PM
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Songstress
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by Espo22
Posted by Songstress
She worked at a school. I missed that part really but she went to work!! And a teacher friends saw the baby in the car!
I understand being overwhelmed, but when she got out of the car didnt she see the baby was in the car i dont know its just weird to me, dont see how that happens. If i get out of the car and forget my phone i remember within a few mins and go back. You just know something is missing.
Exactly! I always check my car before I walk away from it because I know what an airhead I am. But I dont think I could EVER EVER forget a child. Its just nuts. Her husband has forgiven her and doesnt blame her. He said he could have done the same thing easily. I dont want to judge her because she obviously HATES herself for it. But its just insane to me.
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Posted 10/2/08 1:38 PM
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TM2008
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
OMG yes i saw this & was thinking the same exact thing - 8 HOURS?!?!?!!? i can understand 8 SPLIT SECONDS - but hours?! i dont know... i dont think i would ever be THAT overwhelmed!
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Posted 10/2/08 1:39 PM
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SB7308
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
OMG how sad!!!!!! 
She didn't hear the baby while she was in the car??
Was the baby normally with a babysitter? If so wouldn't the sitter call the mother to see where the baby was?
Something doesn't seem right.
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Posted 10/2/08 1:39 PM
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Espo22
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by Songstress
Posted by Espo22
Posted by Songstress
She worked at a school. I missed that part really but she went to work!! And a teacher friends saw the baby in the car!
I understand being overwhelmed, but when she got out of the car didnt she see the baby was in the car i dont know its just weird to me, dont see how that happens. If i get out of the car and forget my phone i remember within a few mins and go back. You just know something is missing.
Exactly! I always check my car before I walk away from it because I know what an airhead I am. But I dont think I could EVER EVER forget a child. Its just nuts. Her husband has forgiven her and doesnt blame her. He said he could have done the same thing easily. I dont want to judge her because she obviously HATES herself for it. But its just insane to me.
i feel the same way. Some things you can understand and see how ppl mess up but no matter how much i try to think of how this can happen, i just dont see how. I can understand somebody running out of the car in a hurry but then after a few mins realizing they forgot the baby in the car. I hate to say this but dont know if i can forgive for that since i cant comprehend how this could even happen.
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Posted 10/2/08 1:41 PM
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Espo22
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by SB7308
OMG how sad!!!!!!
She didn't hear the baby while she was in the car??
Was the baby normally with a babysitter? If so wouldn't the sitter call the mother to see where the baby was?
Something doesn't seem right.
i also think this story is very shady. Obviously she had to drop the baby off somewhere, so nobody noticed when she never showed up with the baby and it took 8 hours for somebody to see a baby in the back seat.
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Posted 10/2/08 1:42 PM
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teenigrrl
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by Songstress
She worked at a school. I missed that part really but she went to work!! And a teacher friends saw the baby in the car!
but why did she have the kid in the car when she was going to work? that's what i don't understand??
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Posted 10/2/08 1:44 PM
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Songstress
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by SB7308
OMG how sad!!!!!!
She didn't hear the baby while she was in the car??
Was the baby normally with a babysitter? If so wouldn't the sitter call the mother to see where the baby was?
Something doesn't seem right.
The baby was asleep. She got up early and that morning wasnt her normal routine. The father normally took the baby and the other daughter to the babysitter but he had a dentist appt. So the mom took the baby and was going to drop the baby at the babysitter. She realized it was too early for the sitter so she went to pick up donuts for the teachers and just forgot and drove straight to school I guess forgetting she decided it was too early to drop the baby off unloaded her car and went to work.
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Posted 10/2/08 1:45 PM
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teenigrrl
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by Songstress
Posted by SB7308
OMG how sad!!!!!!
She didn't hear the baby while she was in the car??
Was the baby normally with a babysitter? If so wouldn't the sitter call the mother to see where the baby was?
Something doesn't seem right.
The baby was asleep. She got up early and that morning wasnt her normal routine. The father normally took the baby and the other daughter to the babysitter but he had a dentist appt. So the mom took the baby and was going to drop the baby at the babysitter. She realized it was too early for the sitter so she went to pick up donuts for the teachers and just forgot and drove straight to school I guess forgetting she decided it was too early to drop the baby off unloaded her car and went to work.
that still sounds weird to me. and what about the other daughter?
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Posted 10/2/08 1:46 PM
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Songstress
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by teenigrrl
Posted by Songstress
Posted by SB7308
OMG how sad!!!!!!
She didn't hear the baby while she was in the car??
Was the baby normally with a babysitter? If so wouldn't the sitter call the mother to see where the baby was?
Something doesn't seem right.
The baby was asleep. She got up early and that morning wasnt her normal routine. The father normally took the baby and the other daughter to the babysitter but he had a dentist appt. So the mom took the baby and was going to drop the baby at the babysitter. She realized it was too early for the sitter so she went to pick up donuts for the teachers and just forgot and drove straight to school I guess forgetting she decided it was too early to drop the baby off unloaded her car and went to work.
See thats what Im confused about too. She doesnt mention the other daughter or who took her to pre-school
that still sounds weird to me. and what about the other daughter?
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Posted 10/2/08 1:47 PM
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Espo22
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by Songstress
Posted by SB7308
OMG how sad!!!!!!
She didn't hear the baby while she was in the car??
Was the baby normally with a babysitter? If so wouldn't the sitter call the mother to see where the baby was?
Something doesn't seem right.
The baby was asleep. She got up early and that morning wasnt her normal routine. The father normally took the baby and the other daughter to the babysitter but he had a dentist appt. So the mom took the baby and was going to drop the baby at the babysitter. She realized it was too early for the sitter so she went to pick up donuts for the teachers and just forgot and drove straight to school I guess forgetting she decided it was too early to drop the baby off unloaded her car and went to work.
im glad she remembered to pick up donuts but forgets about her baby and of course she remembered to take the donuts out of the car but not the baby. See now this story just got even more weird. Obviously it wasnt a situation where she just parked and RAN out of the car. She had donuts in the car which of course cant be forgotten, so after she parked she did have those few seconds where she had to reach to take something out of the car with her. Whether it was front seat or back seat, you are turning slightly, dont you see the carseat and why didnt the babysitter call. And as a teacher, i am sure she also had other things to take with her
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Posted 10/2/08 1:48 PM
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Songstress
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
I dunno. I can understand how overwhelmed people can get. I have done some really really stupid sh!t when I have so much on my plate. REALLY stupid ****. A lot of women called into the show saying theyre so overwhelmed they left a frying pan on or one woman said she put clothe sin the dryer and didnt realize her baby's kitten was in there and killed it. I can see myself doing these things. Sometimes when I think about having kids, I think about what kind of mother Ill be and sometimes I make such stupid mistakes during the day that it makes me never wanna have kids..
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Posted 10/2/08 1:51 PM
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csaburro
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
That is a crazy story....I agree....she remembered the take the donuts out of the car??? But not her baby? And it took 8 hours before someone noticed....you mean she didn't remember within those 8 hours that she was supposed to take her baby to the sitter?
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Posted 10/2/08 1:59 PM
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TM2008
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
i didnt watch the whole show... but someone PLEASE tell me that this woman has a serious mental health issue?!
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Posted 10/2/08 2:01 PM
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ant n tilde
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Here is the thing. I dont understand it either BUT oprah said this show was for every woman who has missed teh exit they take EVERY SINGLE DAY or every woman that pulls up to their house and cant remember how they got there
It really affected me. . . I am on autopilot to and from work. . . I would love to say I could never forget my kid but who really know? I bet she thought that too.
I wish I could say I am a better person and I have sympathy for her but I can't physically feel that way. . .but I try not to judge.
MANY times I am supposed to go somewhere after work like the supermarket and all of a sudden I am IN MY HOUSE before realizing it!
Or one day, I literally forgot to turn down my block and didnt realize it until about 5 blocks later. . .
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Posted 10/2/08 2:08 PM
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Songstress
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by ant n tilde
Here is the thing. I dont understand it either BUT oprah said this show was for every woman who has missed teh exit they take EVERY SINGLE DAY or every woman that pulls up to their house and cant remember how they got there
It really affected me. . . I am on autopilot to and from work. . . I would love to say I could never forget my kid but who really know? I bet she thought that too.
I wish I could say I am a better person and I have sympathy for her but I can't physically feel that way. . .but I try not to judge.
MANY times I am supposed to go somewhere after work like the supermarket and all of a sudden I am IN MY HOUSE before realizing it!
Or one day, I literally forgot to turn down my block and didnt realize it until about 5 blocks later. . .
I agree with you. I just cant judge her. A while ago, I crushed my friend into another car with my car door. I didnt realize she wasnt fully out of the car yet. And she was on the PASSENGER side. HOW DID I NOT SEE HER?? Tell you the truth I was overwhelmed. I had kids in my back seat yelling, I hadnt eaten cause I was rushing all day, blah blah blah. My friend was okay except for some bruises on her legs but I still cant get over how I hurt her like that.
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Posted 10/2/08 2:16 PM
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Espo22
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by ant n tilde
Here is the thing. I dont understand it either BUT oprah said this show was for every woman who has missed teh exit they take EVERY SINGLE DAY or every woman that pulls up to their house and cant remember how they got there
It really affected me. . . I am on autopilot to and from work. . . I would love to say I could never forget my kid but who really know? I bet she thought that too.
I wish I could say I am a better person and I have sympathy for her but I can't physically feel that way. . .but I try not to judge.
MANY times I am supposed to go somewhere after work like the supermarket and all of a sudden I am IN MY HOUSE before realizing it!
Or one day, I literally forgot to turn down my block and didnt realize it until about 5 blocks later. . .
see things like that i can understand. Theres been times im driving and then when i get somewhere i think "wow i dont remember much of the drive" but i think it was actually bc i was just too focused on the road and zoned on that. I can understand forgetting things and trust me i understand doing stupid things, i sure have had my share of doing stupid things.
and she said she was overwhelmed. Now if the story was that she was running real late and had to get to work and she also had to drop the baby off at the sitter but was in such a rush she forgot. But what i got from the story was that it seemed like she was ahead of schedule. She was too early to drop the baby off so wasnt late for that, then obviously she wasnt late for work bc she had more than enough time to even stop and get donuts. If you have time to stop for donuts i dont see it as an overwhelming morning. Again, i would've understood if she even ran into the school and realized it after. But 8 hours to not remember is a bit weird. Plus im still confused why the babysitter didnt call to see if everything was ok. If nobody called to say they werent dropping the baby off that day, then wouldn't she call just to make sure everything is ok
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Posted 10/2/08 2:18 PM
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MeNBobs
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Posted by Espo22
im glad she remembered to pick up donuts but forgets about her baby and of course she remembered to take the donuts out of the car but not the baby. See now this story just got even more weird. Obviously it wasnt a situation where she just parked and RAN out of the car. She had donuts in the car which of course cant be forgotten, so after she parked she did have those few seconds where she had to reach to take something out of the car with her. Whether it was front seat or back seat, you are turning slightly, dont you see the carseat and why didnt the babysitter call. And as a teacher, i am sure she also had other things to take with her
Before seeing this I just couldn't understand how this could happen. How could someone forget about their child for EIGHT hours but after watching it wasn't like this woman was a neglectful monster she was a working mom that made a very serious mistake.
The woman was a school assistant principal and it was her first day back to school for the year.
Her routine was different. usually her husband dropped the baby off but he had a appointment so she was doing it.
Her car was actually a suv or a minivan. So the baby was way in the back and asleep while she was in the front.
The doughnuts were loaded into the trunk. they actually have it on video of her unloading her van and having her hands loaded walking into work.
She said she went to the bakery to kill some time and when she got back in to drive the suv it was on her road to work. She said she was just programmed to go to work.
She even said she spoke about her kids with the new teachers. Oprah asked her and you diodn't think of her then in the car and she said she didn't she was telling people how great her two daughters are but never even thought of the baby still in the car.
It was a hard episode to watch they had the recordings of the 911 calls were people were saying the skin was peeling off and the baby was foaming at the mouth. They also showed the mom being questioned by the police and the poor woman was a wreck she was saying she wanted to die.
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Posted 10/2/08 2:20 PM
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Songstress
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
Denise the baby was also I think like 6-8 months. I think so maybe she wasnt getting enough sleep. And then her routine was changed suddenly, doesnt normally take her baby to school. Its hard for me to comprehend too but I have done some really stupid ****. Although I dont think I could ever do this. When my niece is with me. She is next to me EVERY SECOND. She falls asleep in the car all the time. And I COULD NEVER EVER forget shes back there!
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Posted 10/2/08 2:21 PM
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EmberLynn
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Re: Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday
It happens. Its sad but true. Its very very hard for the whole family. My heart goes out to anyone who anciently too part in their child's death. Trust me, they beat themselves up more than anyone else could. Its easy to say "yeah that'll never happen to me." But then their comes the day when you and your DH have a major fight, or issues at work or with other member of the family. Your schedule changes, your not thinking clearly and human error takes its part. The best thing you can do is hope you are never in that such a state with your child, or that you can get a hold of yourself before your child gets hurt.
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